Bob Lazar had coffee and donuts with Ed Teller at the cafeteria? This earlier statement does not seem to correlate at all with the Ed Teller story he told on the Jesse Michels podcast

Recently, Bob Lazar recounted his story on the Jesse Michels podcast of how he met Ed Teller who presumably got him the job at S-4.

Here is what he's says on the Jesse Michels podcast:

https://youtu.be/d9tdJ2SkBKQ?si=JD0cyLUHF388djoi&t=1180

Jesse: So we go you go to a like a talk he gives or something

Bob: Yeah he was about to give a talk I got there early he's sitting outside reading the paper cause the door was locked so that's I wanted to go super early too 'cause I thought maybe it's gonna be crowded or whatever

He is reading the front page of the paper… or else I really didn't know how to go out and say anything but I went 0h it's the perfect segue he's already reading about m

So I was like hi Ed I'm the guy you're reading about there ….

Jesse: So what was the conversation like are you like hey that you know that's me and then what did he what did h

Bob: He said well that's fascinating but it you know II can't remember verbatim but he said but essentially "it is grossly impractical" I said yeah it's not made to be a practical you know mode of transportation and then we only spoke for a short time and then you can hear the door unclick swing open and a guy greeted him Oh, Mr Teller and so they brought him in and you know that was that but as time went on I made reference to that meeting when I sent him a resume after I had moved on from Los Alamos he remembered…

It's slightly different but similar story in his book Dreamland:

"'You’re the man with the jet car,” he said. He stabbed at the paper with my photograph on the front page. “That’s right, I’m Bob Lazar. That’s my car.

We spent a few more minutes talking. He seemed quite taken with the idea of me having installed a jet engine in my car. Though I wasn’t applying rocket science in the ways that he was dealing with, he seemed both amused by and impressed with the application. He asked me what else I had planned on doing, but I wasn’t able to answer. One of the staff members came and escorted him away so that Teller could begin his presentation."

Previously, however Bob Lazar had a very different end to this story seen here:

https://youtu.be/sTUmjxEYCTs?si=emTbtWOrX0yD4cWm&t=70

Bob: I had a fascination with a small jet engines I built and installed a jet engine in a little Honda Civic a small car it made the front page in local Los Alamos paper the monitor coincidentally and in fact on the back of that that front page Ed Teller was giving a lecture on SDI and I believe that was June 1982 at Los Alamos.

As I was walking up to the lecture hall I wanted to hear what Ed Teller had to say, as I was walking up to the lecture hall I got there relatively early thinking there would be a fairly large turn out as it turned out, there wasn't

I got there about an hour and a half early and Ed Teller is sitting outside and he had just bought a paper out of the paper machine and he was reading the front page and I thought well what an opportunity to introduce myself I can say well I'm the guy you're reading about I always wanted to meet you so on and so forth just to get into some small talk

We talked for a little bit he seemed interested in some things I had to say and really just wanted to hear his viewpoints on certain things and we had a cup of coffee together and a donut down at the cafeteria. That was the extent of our meeting. After that I heard his lecture and later after I had moved to Las Vegas when I decided to get back into the scientific field and sent out resumes…

Look, I get over time one can forget events clearly, but in this scenario the end of Bob's encounter with Ed Teller in the two accounts are completely different. In the earlier statement, Bob goes down to the cafeteria and has a discussion with Teller over coffee and donuts. In more recent accounts he is speaking to Ed Teller for just a few minutes outside the locked auditorium before someone unlocks the door and brings Dr. Teller in. It is virtually impossible that both these statements can be true because in both contrasting stories Bob never has a face to face meeting with Dr. Teller again (in one scenario he last sees Dr. Teller outside the auditorium as they unlock the doors and let Dr. Teller in and in the other he is inside the building having coffee and donuts with Teller in the cafeteria)

If this was just an isolated event of contrasting statements from Bob Lazar it would be much easier to brush it off and move on with the story, but this is just another one of many examples where a detail in the story has changed significantly that contrasts with previous statements.

These combined inconsistencies are a significant red flag to Bob's story. When you tell the truth you can stay consistent, but when you are making up a story you eventually forget key details resulting in inconsistencies like this, and I believe that is what is going on here, at least in my opinion.