“Whether we call them angels, demons, or extraterrestrials, the entities adapt their masks to our culture… Today’s Greys may be yesterday’s sylphs or jinn.” Quote from Dimensions.
“There may be a machine involved, but a machine that remains out of view of the witnesses, who see only what it is projecting. When we go to the movies, we look at the objects and the people on the screen; we do not stare at the projector.” Quote from Messengers of Deception.
“The entities appear to be neither extraterrestrial nor human, but something that mimics both imperfectly.”
Quote from Passport to Magonia.
"We are asked to believe in revelations that flatter our hopes, but are carefully staged manipulations. The UFO phenomenon is not only about the visitors—it is also about those who claim to speak for them.”
Quote from Revelations
“The 'medical examination' to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscient of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes no sense in a sophisticated or technical framework: any intelligent being equipped with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be in a position to achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in a shorter time and with fewer risks.* *Quote from Confrontations
“Human beings are under the control of a strange force that bends them in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role in a bizarre game of deception.” Quote from Passport to Magonia.
“We are dealing with a yet unrecognized level of consciousness, independent of man but closely linked to the earth…. I do not believe anymore that UFOs are simply the spacecraft of some race of extraterrestrial visitors. This notion is too simplistic to explain their appearance, the frequency of their manifestations through recorded history, and the structure of the information exchanged with them during contact.” Quote from Messengers of Deception. Quote from Messengers of Deception.
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Original air date, May 2025
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Sounds a little like Plato’s Allegory of the Cave.
Thank you for sharing, I’m posting to r/UFOReligion too
Jacques Vallée tells Ross Coulthart he’s not Christian but says demonology ‘should be taken into account’ for UFOs. Post includes key quotes from his books on deceptive entities adapting cultural masks.
Rather than interpreting the word “demon” through a Christian lens, he suggests we look at their presence throughout history and their impact on society.
On a side note and to be precise, Jacques Vallée tells he is not a “*practicing*” Christian. From that, I’d say that he believes to a certain degree.
“Perhaps Christian’s are right!” What is going on with the narrative in ufo world? Why the hell are we letting this slide? Disclosure is obviously being co-opted to indoctrinate or foster the Christian ideology on the American people.
Imagine a bunch of people trying to convince the public it’s demons and angels and it’s Lockheed Martin technology and a rich white dude.
It’s almost comical to see how many people are bothered by this.My recent post here revealed that rationalists and scientistic thinkers don’t accept much of the data they call Woo.Since working with Keel and Valle, I’ve changed a lot. I firmly believe that this phenomenon is chameleon-like, complex, multifaceted, and quite extensive and…Ancient I don’t think they are simply advanced biological organisms and Spaceships
wouldn’t demon technically still be an alien if it was from another dimension?
Great quotes.
There’s a lot of projections going on, that’s for sure.
Fear based belief systems are going to see danger in literally anything. We may not know whether ETs are real or not but one thing for certain is the way people respond to the possibility is telling of how they approach and think about the unknown.
#iwanttokissanET
I am a bit disappointed in the angle Ross is taking. I do think he is pushing a Christian narrative especially with his comment about people who invoke the name of Jesus “always” having the experience end. If we are going to push a religious narrative, we need to look at it through the lens that all religions have truth to them. Throughout history many religions state that their god is good and anyone else’s is evil. We need to get over that. We need to look at this through every lens we have. I for one am not interested in having someone else tell me they are evil, and just taking that at their word.
We need some non-white/western people to get read in on this subject, because if another one comes on talking about NHIs are fallen angels, I’m gonna lose it.
I remember Diana Pasulka saying Vallee has statues of angels and books about angels. But that makes sense given his research. Like if you research paranormal stuff you kinda have to look into the paranormal stuff that happens in the bible. Like miracles, levitating saint’s and contact with angels. Ezekiel’s Wheel seem to be popular at the moment thanks to Anna Paulina Luna.
ok so they could be dreaming or experiencing sleep paralysis during their experiences.
people do this in scary dreams. they will pray or call out a name. jesus, buddha, mary, muhammad, krishna. then the bad thing stops happening. doing such a thing is not particular to Christianity.