I just don’t see how this object could be a six pointed star shape. I guess it’s possible but wouldn’t that mean the object has locked its orientation precisely with the camera? The points never change their orientation relative to the camera frame and that really bothers me. To be clear I think there is an object here BUT I do not believe the points to be part of that object. I’d like to have some discussion about this!
by DividedSkyBalls11
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Good point and good eye.
What’s your theory?
It means it’s a lens flare
I think it is a flaw in the optical path. The ‘object’ also turns around it’s vertical axis so that when the camera pans left and right it appears to rotate as well.
I’ve been trying to get my brain to ignore the spikes and to write them off as a lens flair (just for the sake of trying to get a different perspective of this thing + flare seems common in these types of videos)
I think there is an extremely bright orb with a type of field or bubble around it, the orb/light might be attached to a larger piece of craft that is semi hidden by the exhaust or plasma field or whatever it is emitting, which is then further abstracted by the flare.
At the risk of sounding nuts, I get a heavy suspicion that what we see in this video is the effect of the technology of whatever that thing is. If you see visualised black holes you get that halo of light from the distortion of space. I think the points of the star could be a similar thing.
Only the center leaves a trail when the drone moves, the other bits dont. What if the points of light are light from behind it being bent round the front and therefore keeps a rotation due to being seen through the lens of the drone. If it was purely glare, wouldn’t the points connect to the center? There’s a weird fuzzyness to the grey area of the object. Makes me think of distorted space/light. Something to think about!
I think that the star is a reflection of a mechanical component or some part of the camera
It means the aliens are *inside the camera*.
The arms are not part of the object, but an optical illusion created inside the camera when the object’s light bends around the lens’s internal structures.
I’ll post this again . The more and more I see explanations like this , very well done and great eye, the more I believe this to be part of the drone itself. Some sort of ref too of the motor. Maybe ?
You can get a bit of the side definition on the video if you pause around 1:21
Generally that means it’s some sort of component of the camera itself causing those spikes. Same thing with the gimbal video matching the rotation of the camera. It’s a camera artifact or some sort of lock designation IMHO.
I don’t think it’s a camera effect after watching the stabilized footage. At the end of the video, you see the object slightly from the side, and it no longer looks like a bloom effect: [https://imgur.com/a/kAmGzHQ](https://imgur.com/a/kAmGzHQ)
It looks very much like a 3D object, including the spikes protruding from something round, like a ramjet engine.
It’s possible that this object is aware of the sensor (camera) and might even be ‘tracking’ it. The way it was stalking that drone makes that plausible to me.
Edit: It might be quantum locking, which a number of pilots have reported before with UAPs. This could explain why the object rotates in sync with the camera even as the drone turns.
What if it’s locked on the camera itself? Does this make sense?
https://youtu.be/hJumYEMPBfE?si=A595-Q_3x4ydObfL
It’s an aberration on the FLIR pod.
If the object is real, then it must be spinning at the same rate as the camera.
Did anyone address what looks like exhaust fumes behind the object?
Ho già elaborato la mia teoria: quello difronte è un altro drone che emette segnali termici/infrarossi. Due motivazioni: 1) riflesso della lente dimostrato con quelle punte. 2) scia verso il basso dato dalle pale che riscaldano l aria e la spingono verso il basso per tenere il drone stabile.
Where there’s a will there’s a way boys
And why does it appear to have smoke/heat vapor billowing out of it? Is this part of the drone?
What if the object appears this way naturally? Like optical illusion but its not an illusion. Could explain how it seems to follow the camera retaining its orientation. Would feel pretty alien.
People always talk about feeling that UAP’s sense they’ve been seen then disappear, maybe they interact weirdly with the direct observer to appear a certain way
The spikes appear to be an artifact, this is why they are oriented to the hot spot.
What we have is a hot spot, and a heat trail/exhaust trail.
This could easily have been another drone, missile or vehicle. What makes it interesting, is that it cannot be identified by the military.
The plume coming out of it seems to always remain oriented with the ground, which is also interesting and really brought out by the line that you added. Weird all around.
If it is a real object, consider that’s its behavior is the same as commander Favour described with the tic-tac when it came up to meet his plane in that the UAP may be mirroring the movements of the drone.
It’s what’s in the middle that’s what’s important. The Spikes are just an artifact from it being super bright I think? But the middle is interesting looking. It’s not just a round focal point of light? It looks like there is movement there? Just my best stab at it here so sorry if I’m wrong .
It’s usually a lens flare effect from the camera, as it stays with the camera — but don’t forget the light source of the object also is a component to why the flare looks like this (to those who are screaming they’ve never seen a lens flare like this). You can’t compare a solar lens flare from the sun to this lens flare, cause we don’t really know what this light emitting object is.
Is it me or the movement of the drone is off? It’s like somehow it’s pinned to that place
You know what I find interesting is that this same pattern is also seen in another video of a Middle East sighting in 2013 they look so similar I wish I could add picture to show.
Found it: https://youtu.be/ADMcelTgWYo?si=CMHrMvjy27q_Y-f7 in this video check out the sighting at 20:34
At least to me they look fairly similar or at the very least point at a similar design configuration
I forget the name of the phenomena, I think it was like quantum locking or something? Anyway, a fighter pilot said a UFO flew adjacent to his jet above the cockpit, and no matter what evasive maneuver he tried, it didn’t leave that spot. Maybe it locks onto whatever it’s veiwing, and quantum locks itself (if that’s the term) to get a steady view?
i think it’s not authentic
Just because the frame rotates doesn’t mean the camera’s lens is rotating. It could just be a digital rotate.
Is this by any chance a jet/rocket of some sort and we are looking from a 360 camera’s perspective attached to said jet/“thrusters” looking back at the craft?
Kinda like a selfie stick 360 cam doesnt capture the stick, maybe we’re not seeing the craft/rocket/whatever except for its jet/propulsion system and exhaust.
What it looks like to me tbh
could be artifacts from the observing vehicle’s lense like the points on starts observed by the James Webb. I think it looks like a Lockheed Martin Multiple Kill Vehicle.
When you look at the stabilized vs non-stabilized versions of this video, a number of things become apparent:
* **The “object” sits at essentially the same screen location.** If you template-match the small marker from around the 12-second frame. It repeatedly matched at about **x = 450, y = 315 pixels** in frames around **4s, 6s, 12s, 14s, 16s, 26s, and 28s**. That is exactly what a HUD/reticle element would do. A real object in the scene would not keep returning to the same display-coordinate position while the thermal background and hot target move around it.
* **It has the shape of a display glyph.** In the crops, it looks like a small central mark with bright ticks/blobs around it. That is consistent with an aiming/tracking symbol rendered into the video feed. It does not look like a resolved flying object.
* **The hot target moves relative to it.** At some moments the hot target is below it, beside it, partly offscreen, or passing under/near it. That makes the marker look like it is “following” the object, but the simpler read is: the reticle is fixed on the screen, and the operator/gimbal/target motion brings the real target near it.
* **The videos are not raw sensor footage.** The last frame shows a phone/iOS interface intruding, so this is at least a screen recording or reposted copy of a feed. That means we are looking through several layers: original thermal sensor → drone/weapon OSD (On-Screen Display) → recording/export → compression/social media/video player. That makes fine artifact analysis weak, but it makes OSD/overlay explanations more likely.
So, most likely it is a fixed OSD aiming/tracking reticle.
At the start of the video the operator is basically adjusting the camera toward the horizon so he can smoothly pan between the two objects. After setting it up, he catches the first object at 0:48.
Then he pans horizontally toward the second object in the distance — the glowing light. Around 1:00 he pauses on it for a couple seconds, then moves the camera back along the same path to the first object.
After that the camera drops down like he’s saying “ok I got it.”
So in terms of this being some kind of camera glitch or defect — probably not.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i36abTkQBWI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i36abTkQBWI)
What is the expected size of this object? I’m watching these bright light videos the gov dropped and I’m like how big are these objects.
This type of diffraction spikes can occur with 6 blade apertures on cameras. I suspect it is some type of battlefield illumination or flare on another drone. [Battlefield illumination example ](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Army_52253_Best_Warrior_At_Night.jpg#mw-jump-to-license)
This is the 100th time I’ve seen this video.
Google MKV Lockheed. Is it possible it’s something like this?
My take is it’s a mkv. Deployed next to the drone for protection.
You missed the part of the video where it’s not keeping the same orientation… Why?
Maybe its the camera matching the orientation of the object?
I don’t understand the movement of the camera to be honest, I don’t understand what kind of drone could take this imagery. Where is the camera on the drone? Underneath? Then it seems odd we can see above the horizon, same goes for if the camera were on top, we can see the ground. Is it front locked with vertical nodal pan? If this was a quad copter then some of the tilt seems odd. My initial thought is that this is a fixed wing done with a moveable camera, but again, how come we never see any of the drone? The movements the camera makes feels like it could be seeing some part of the done in the shot at some point, but we never do.
My personal conclusion is that this is a multi-camera set up, with tech that stiches together the output in a way to hide the fuselage of the drone, a bit like those camera rigs that can hide their own handles or selfie sticks, or like those 360 degree cameras with two oposing lenses. Weird artefacts appear where the stitch happens, and I wonder if that’s what’s happening here, we’re seeing part of the drone itself, but it looks like it’s hovering at distance because the part that attaches it to the drone is cut off by the stitch, with the apparent plume as well I wonder if it’s the engine.
There doesn’t appear to be any other artefacts though, I’d expect a hard line at the horizon where the exposures don’t match, but I don’t see that happening, so in the end, who really knows, but the rotation matching proves to me at least that *some* aspect of what we’re seeing is a camera artefact.
Most likely related to the aperture of the camera. The shape of the iris will affect the way flares look. See it all the time in the photography/videography world.
I think the spikes have to be a lens artifact because an object would not turn with the camera. That said, the rest of the object is interesting and pretty strange.
Gravitational lensing
Maybe it’s ‘locked’ in space in somehow? It reminds me of the quantum [flux pinning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_pinning) effect. It’s also reminiscent of the Gimble video, wherein that object appears to rotate its axis independent of its immediate environment, or its own mass/inertia.
Hear me out. Google image search “bullet hole in plexiglass” and see the similarities, albiet the object in this video looks perfectly symmetrical. Now imagine a gimbal camera inside a plexiglass bubble that has a hole in it, while the white spikes are maybe light reflecting off the cracks in the glass and the hole in the middle. Call me skeptical but this seems like a reasonable explination to me.
This could be simply the sun
My first guess is that it’s a metallic orb-shaped object reflecting the sun & causing lens flares (the spikes + the glowing center).