I have been obsessed with this question for the past few weeks and no matter what side you are on, its fun to think about.

Here is what got me thinking. The human body was not built for space. Our lungs need a specific atmospheric pressure. Our cardiovascular system depends on gravity to function properly. Our bones start deteriorating within weeks in zero gravity environments. Even with all of our technology we have essentially built elaborate life support systems that recreate Earth's conditions inside a metal tube and then launched that tube into an environment that would kill us instantly without it.

So the question I keep coming back to is — have we actually left Earth or have we just taken a small piece of Earth with us and called it space travel?

And then there is the Van Allen radiation belt situation. The belts surrounding Earth contain levels of radiation that by most accounts should be lethal for extended human exposure. We apparently passed through them multiple times during the Apollo missions with relatively minimal shielding. The more I read the more questions I have.

I put together a video exploring both sides of this with my buddy who fully believes we never left earth. Im not sold on that claom yet but the conversation is interesting either way. Would love to hear where people in this community land on it.



by Responsible-Jury2579

7 Comments

  1. I am open to a lot of things. It’s this kind of absolute nonsense that is actively making the world dumber

    It’s not fun to think about. It’s absurd and downplays the achievements humans can reach when we disregard borders and collaborate as one human species.

  2. ForestOfMirrors on

    We have absolutely left earth’s atmosphere.
    Humans have been doing it for 60-ish years

  3. What side? What do you mean what side? The “we never left” narrative is so full of holes that, if it were the official story, the conspiracy movement would tear it apart. Where other alternative/conspiracy theories have purported footage and evidence, moon doubters have nothing but baseless doubts. Can you show us experiments where they’ve killed life with Van Allen radiation? Can you show us lungs failing in freefall conditions?

    Edit: It’s not out of the question that extraterrestrial factions are pushing the space denial narrative. I could imagine entities who want to keep this planet classified as incapable of spaceflight, possibly for legal reasons. But you know, it’s fun to think about, no matter what side of the “all space denialism is a front for extraterrestrial exploitation” question you’re on.

  4. moistiest_dangles on

    As somone who’s definitely a conspiracy nut, we went to the moon and landed on it in the 60s 100% confident in that.

    For the Moon missions to be fake the Russians would have to be in on it, that fact alone completely kills this conspiracy for me. Not only that but we also left mirrors on the moon so that we could bounce lasers off them and measure distance highly accurately. You can also with some supplies recreate this experiment. There are many many many other reasons why fake moon missions are just not fact and not any good unexplainable reasons to believe that it was faked.

  5. The only sides are really stupid, gullible people vs literally everyone else.

    Shouldn’t even be humored, it just breeds more stupidity.

  6. Will humanity achieve flying someday? Because we don’t have wings or feathers like the birds do.

    Late 1800’s ahh post.

  7. Humans have evolved for earth. Apollo astronauts experienced random flashes. Turns out they were being hit with cosmic rays unfiltered by Earth
    The space age has shown that for a short period of time it possible to leave earth and go to the moon. It only works if enough of an envelope of earth is taken with them. Maybe a scientific moon base would be possible. Pursuit of knowledge is what makes us human.
    Humans should never go to Mars. Too far and not suitable. AI and robotics are advancing so rapidly just wait a few years and send a practically sentient
    Artificial being there to explore for us.