Out of body experience and projection inside a UAP

Nicolas Fraisse (whose abilities were studied by ISSNOE in Switzerland), well-known in France for his ability to easily leave his body and project himself remotely, describes his interaction with a UAP. Video interview with automatic English subtitles : https://youtu.be/DJrOZwtgpjQ
Transcript of the interesting part starting at 13:25:
Interviewer: In this elsewhere, you've sometimes had some rather special encounters. You're talking about these humanoids, what we generally call Martians, even if they don't come from Mars.

Nicolas: Ah, that's quite creepy what you're saying. Oh yes, that was one of the creepiest experiences for me.

So that was a great idea from Claude Charles because Claude Charles likes everything related to our distant cousins ​​up there, and it was a time when I was still living in Lyon.

For a while I… I was seeing unidentified flying objects, lights in the sky over Lyon, and then one evening I called Claude Charles to tell him about it, because he's really into that kind of thing.

So, he gave me the brilliant idea of ​​projecting myself inside one of these objects, having an out-of-body experience. Well, I listened to Claude Charles and wanting to experiment, so I decided to try it. And actually, when I arrived, I didn't have that feeling of being the whole picture, but more of a point of view, like just a little ball, for example, if I were a little ball floating around. I had more of a sense of being a point of view, which was a little different from what I'm used to experiencing with out-of-body experiences.

And so I immediately snapped back into my body with a feeling of danger. Oh, I was scared! And then, thinking about it, it gives me goosebumps because it was really an experience I didn't like, and I was very, very scared.

And then a few days later, I was playing video games. I enjoy them. I was relaxing in my living room, and bam, I see one of those beings appear, a bit blurry, pointing at me and making me understand that I shouldn't do it again

There were no words, nothing. But Basically, it meant don't do it again

It was like my physics teacher when I was messing around in middle school and he'd tell me, "You'd better not do it again or you'll end up in the principal's office"