Below are some quotes from the recent SOL discussion that I found interesting because they came from Kirk McConnell and Jim Semivan, both of which i consider to be somewhat in the know.
Semivan because he was in the higher ranks of the CIA, involved in the creation of TTSA to prepare the public for disclosure. And McConnell because he was a senate staffer that was in many of the meetings where whistleblowers testified.
Kirk McConnell: serious people made allegations about govt sanctioned abductions
Kirk McConnell: "Do I suspect that there have been, for example, crimes committed in the name of security over 80 years? Yeah I would personally bet some money on that. But what about things like: has the US govt States sanctioned abductions? And have even US govt personnel been present at some of them?"
Kirk McConnell: "These are allegations that are made out there by serious people, right? Well if that happened, okay, why did the government agree to that? Is it because they didn't have any choice because it's gonna happen anyway and so they were there to sort of monitor or something, you know what I'm saying?"
Kirk McConnell: "there needs to be a truth and reconcilliation process"
Continued from above timestamp:
Kirk McConnell: "[…] ultimately there needs to be a truth and reconciliation process here, right? The kind of thing that South Africa went through"
He says this right after talking about the US govt agreeing to and being complicit in NHI abductions. Why would such a reconcilliation process be needed if these things didnt happen?
Kirk McConnell seems to nonverbally confirm the story about Eisenhower meeting NHI
This part is interesting because McConnell sat in many of the classified/closed door meetings where whistleblowers informed congress. So go to the timestamp and watch his behaviour. At the very least i think this indicates that some whistleblowers talked about this:
Leslie Kean: "I mean the kinds of questions that are going to be asked, the lawsuits that are going to be filed, and then you have to deal with, as Jim mentioned earlier, the sort of paranormal aspects of this: are abductions real? Did Eisenhower meet with the aliens back at such and such a time? All of that is opened up."
Kirk McConnell [who is nodding in agreement while Leslie talks]: "Yes"
Jim Semivan: 2000 years of NHI stuff
Found this an interesting quote because of that 2000 years part, which is obviously connected to religion:
Jim Semivan: "I think we need to hear more from NHI, and they seem to be… like 2,000 years of this stuff, and they give us a little bit more [info about themselves], I think but we still don't know anything about it. We don't know their plans and intentions. We don't know if they have any ethics or morals. We don't even know if they're interested in us"
Jim Semivan: what if NHI says we are incarnated for a particular purpose and they created religion
Another link to religion from Semivan:
Jim Semivan: "What if they say [NHI], "Well look, here is what reality is, here is what it's all about," and they go down to the quantum mechanics level and say "we're all just energy forms and you're here, manifested or incarnated in this physical body for this particular purpose". Then they say, "Religion, well we sort of introduced that ourselves and it sort of got out of hand and there's really no god per se that's this, that, and the other thing."
im Semivan: "It could be so disruptive on so many levels and it's like you'd have to stack science on top of anthropology on top of religion on top of politics and on top of culture in general. It's all interrelated and it's so complex that's why I like to call it a wicked problem. I don't think there's any kind of resolution to any of this."
by phr99
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Hes saying truths without being able to actually say it. Disruptive and ontological shock needs to only be considered puberty for our species. Its going to be a hard,difficult and even painful experience but without it we will never grow.
Jim I know why you think it is all connected. When this phenomenon attacks family members and targets children, haunts your home, leaves physical scratches, etc… This phenomenon reveals its true nature. It is a dark one, someone would even say an evil one. It’s connected to Religion you know this from your experience. Some of us can handle this others of us can not. But thank you for sharing…
Last point: If the phenomenon comes with a different message, a different gospel if you will. Anti-Human even or SuperHuman, enter the Angel/Alien Human Hybrid. Sadly most especially in the UFO community will not question.
If the Greada treaty is true, it’s definitely why they can’t tell the public. Government leaders making a deal with NHI in abductions for tech swap. Refusing to disarm nukes with the first NHI race.
Also of note: David Grusch was asked before congress if we’d made a deal with NHI and he said he wants to get to the bottom of that himself.
He also told Ross Coulthart he has reason to believe the gov DID make a deal with NHI.
Go back and look at the cover story. Eisenhower was on vacation, but then went missing. Even was pronounced dead for minutes by the Associated press. Then it was said he chipped his tooth and went to the dentist unannounced. Later the dentists wife (Dr. Purcell I believe) stated she doesn’t believe he worked on the president. Just a strange time, I think there’s something to it. Also rumored to have potential military witnesses to seeing the presidential plane land at holloman afb in 1954.
It’s painful and difficult for the systems of control. This is them saying the quiet part out loud “we don’t want to relinquish control”… this is not their place to decide. If the walls come tumbling down in chaos then something good can come out the other side.
People want to believe there’s some kind of relationship between us and the phenomenon, but that’s just human hubris and wishful thinking. We assume it would communicate with us, work with us, or even care about us, because that’s how humans think.
But there’s no reason to believe that’s true.
If the phenomenon is as advanced or different as it seems, it wouldn’t need our approval, agreements, or understanding. It wouldn’t waste time negotiating with us any more than we negotiate with insects.
The idea that we’re important to it, or that it’s waiting for us to “advance” or “be ready,” is just projection. It reflects how we see ourselves, not how it actually operates.
The reality is probably much simpler and harder to accept. It’s indifferent.