They want you to believe this was made with copper chisels and stonesIf we can't easily move this today with modern tech, how did "slaves" plan to lift it out of the bedrock? Are we the primitive ones

by Professional-Fee3323

38 Comments

  1. Yes. Fight with your strawman more, Don Kichote! We’re all rooting for you!

  2. We can easily move this with modern tech, we just don’t want to because that would ruin the site. And by modern tech I mean cranes with the right angles. People in ancient time used the same principle, replacing machinery with manpower.

  3. I believe we have been dumbed down and enslaved. I have no clue what came before us but it’s not what they tell us

  4. MolecCodicies on

    One thought i had today was are ancient geopolymers that far fetched? If they started with a material akin to cement and sculpted it while wet that could explain a lot and wouldn’t be as complex as missing power tools. It would just involve a cement recipe we don’t know about

  5. For the 1000th time, slaves did not construct megalithic structures in Egypt. Highly skilled artisans did. Do you have any evidence that copper tools could not cut stone? From all the evidence I’ve seen, stone could be cut and moved with relatively primitive technology.

  6. A_wandering_rider on

    I could make and move that today or 2500 years ago. To carve it you just need sand, water, and hard work. All I need to move it is a couple hundred dudes, a couple hundred logs, and a bunch of rope. Its not even hard. Your inability to understand the basic principles of engineering and leverage is impressive.

  7. BigPileOfTrash on

    All of you should work with stone for a summer.
    Even with modern technology extremely difficult to move and work with.
    Cutting? Placement? Not easy.

  8. I’d like to see archeologists carve out one of these things with the tools and methods they say were used.

  9. theyoodooman on

    You might notice that those trenches carved into granite along the perimeter of the unfinished obelisk are man-sized. If Ancient Egyptian obelisks and blocks were carved using some sort of lost Atlantean geode lasers and lifted and transported using anti-grav gifted by grey aliens — or whatever explanation you’re pulling out of your butt — those huge trenches wouldn’t be needed.

    Those trenches are man-sized because this unfinished obelisk was painstakingly carved by men who were down in those trenches, using copper drills and chisels, dolerite hammers, wooden wedges, and abrasive sand. And after they spend years doing that, they had to abandon it because it had cracks.

  10. MrBones_Gravestone on

    Nothing “simply vanished”, we found how it was made, yall just wanna feel like you know a secret conspiracy to feel special

  11. No_Parking_87 on

    Why would you say it was scooped like soft wax? I see absolutely no reason to think that excavating that obelisk was either quick or easy. Just because the indentations in the rock look a bit like scoop marks doesn’t mean the rock was actually scooped.

  12. ZukaRouBrucal on

    The tool is called “Skilled artisans using copper tools, abrasive sand between the metal and the material being cut, and a lot of time and elbow grease.” This isn’t even debated anymore, and the only people still questioning how megalithic blocks were cut but the Egyptians are grifters or folks who don’t know any better.

  13. landlord-eater on

    You hit the rock with something sharp and hard a bunch of times and then move it with levers and ropes man 

  14. You’re just gonna get a bunch of negativity in this sub. No constructive discussions. Just insults and passive aggression implying you’re stupid and they are smart.

  15. Let me guess. “Da alienz constructed da pyramidz and ancient Egypt and sheeit”. Even though all continents had advanced artisans who created wonders far greater than what most people could at that time, it’s impossible for Africa to have one civilization able to do the same

  16. It’s pretty obvious, gravity was less of an impedance. Earth hadn’t received its full complement of water, when that obelisk was carved, 4,000 +/- years ago.

    The ancient past was very different than we’ve been told (imagine describing our world, 500 years from now, when oil has been exhausted as an energy source).

    I write about that story, on my substack. Drop by snd take a read:

    https://open.substack.com/pub/anarchitek/p/pharaohs-pyramids-and-a-different?r=5zrdw2&utm_medium=ios

  17. Affectionate_Ice2243 on

    ![gif](giphy|3o7TKTTvetgPm4AhHO)

    Whoa… a massive rock sliced perfectly

  18. Alarmed-Animal7575 on

    Chisels, hammers and baskets – and time – is all that was needed.

  19. The world record for a modern crane lift is 20,000 metric tons. We could very easily move this today. The biggest stone blocks in the pyramid at Giza are 80 tons. Pebbles to today’s gantry.

    It’s pure hubris to think “ancient” humans couldn’t figure this shit out just because *you* can’t figure it out in your spare time.

  20. It’s lowkey disrespectful when people discount the brilliance of ancient people to do a lot with a little assuming they needed something unheard of to accomplish it, same as if you called the old kingdom projects primitive.

    Seems like a skill issue.

  21. It probably wasn’t carved at all. More likely it was placed there, like a 3D prop designed in Blender.

    The same design package Slartibartfast used to create the Fjords most likely.