George Knapp has stated at least in the past he doesn't believe Bob went to MIT per is 2014 Copenhagen speech (but still supports Bob's story):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1viG6PRjiw&t=2697s
Linda Moulten Howe a few years ago stated that Bob told her he did not attend MIT but just visited some friends there (also, of note, while defending Bob's story):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opDWLx8lw1g
Kevin Moore claims on an episode of his podcast that he contacted Bob's ex-wife Tracy, and she implied Bob did not go to MIT and that the whole story was untrue (at around the 1hr 4min mark):
John Lazar Debates The bob Lazar Story | #672 – YouTube
When asked in 1993 to name some of his professors at MIT, Bob named Hohsfield and Duxler, who ended up not being MIT professors but some of Bob's High School and Pierce College teachers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA1TvhJKv8s&t=2758s
In 2022, John Jarmer a physicist who claims to have worked with Bob Lazar at Los Alamos and worked there all the way to 2006 has stated Bob Lazar was not a physicist but just an electrical technician.
Richard Evans Mischke, another physicist at Los Alamos, also stated Bob Lazar was not a physicist at Los Alamos because he was in management in at period in charge of hiring physicists, and he did not hire Bob on as a physicist.
https://medium.com/@signalsintelligence/bob-lazar-theres-more-to-the-story-17829c2ff650
The new documentary S-4 (which is actually really fun to watch and well done in many ways), suspiciously skips over Bob Lazar's MIT and other college education.
In the 90s, the premise was that his records had been erased from Caltech, MIT, Los Alamos, etc which seemed entirely possible at the time, but 30+ years later with the discrepancies from Bob in this area and real witnesses claiming the contrary, is seems extremely unlikely that Bob Lazar was a physicist or attended MIT.
The new trend to rationalize these discrepancies is to say Bob just lied about his education to get into this secret program. I guess this can't be ruled out, but how likely is it that Bob would not be honest about his education and profession, and still hold on to that untruth now, and yet be telling the truth on the rest this story. In my, opinion, the odds are really low that this is the case.
If Bob came clean on his education maybe it would give more credibility to the amazing story of his alleged work at S-4, but I just don't think that will ever happen, and that is a huge red flag to the entire story of Bob Lazar, at least in my opinion.
by HeathJett
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Oh oh. You’re poking the bear! Good on you.
My condolences for the squad of true believers you’ll now have to deal with.
As someone who believes that there truly is a UAP conspiracy at the highest level, I just can’t buy Bob Lazar. He has been discredited as much if not more than almost anyone involved in the space. Everyone always likes to mention “he predicted element 115!” as if elements aren’t already scientifically predicted. Just because they discovered it after he mentioned it doesn’t mean that *he* proved its existence.
He has never possessed any substantiated evidence. If he did, I could maybe believe a coverup by the government to scrub his past. But why would they go after a guy so hard who has had nothing more to prove than his word?
If people have been happy to pretzel logic their way to explaining it for decades, why bother introducing more doubt into your story now? If someones thought “naw bro its because he was erased!” for decades and suddenly dude says “oh yeah I made that up my bad lol” then that person is going start questioning more and more. Better to leave it a mystery.
Love this sort of citing. Thank you. I’m curious about Hohsfield and Duxler. Do you have the source connecting them as his high school teachers?
There’s no way you lie about going to MIT and successfully get hired into any TS cleared position, let alone something as supposedly classified as this stuff would be. I’ve had a security clearance. They literally went to my university and talked to people there about me as part of the investigation. They wouldn’t even have to go that far for Lazar; just calling the registrar’s office would have been enough.
That rationalization doesn’t hold water.
If Lazar admits to having lied about his school then all the other nonsense he’s been spewing immediately becomes suspect.
Even moreso than it is now.
The obvious answer is that Bob Lazar is and always has been completely full of shit.
People want to buy what he is selling so they give him pass after pass.
MIT? No record
Stable Element 115? Doesn’t (can’t) exist.
The list is long. Stop paying attention to him.
How did he knew about element 115 even before it was theorised or made public ?
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First of all if you listen to people like Knapp, Joe Rogan, Luigi Vendittelli, and others Bob didn’t attend school at MIT in the usual sense. Joe has said on several occasions now that Bob has discussed the issues people have with his school records and he can’t discuss it openly cause of national security issues that has nothing to do with UFO’s or anything UFO related.
My guess it has something to do with nukes.
How people still don’t believe him is beyond me. Reddit is full of bots
This disqualifies Bob Lazar for me.
He is a genuine enigma. I have gone back and forth on whether I believe him or not since he first arrived on the scene. The only reason I am 55% on him being genuine is his consistency over the years.