Just finished an interview with Dr. Julia Mossbridge (cognitive neuroscientist, Fellow at the Institute of Noetic Sciences) regarding her new book Have a Nice Disclosure.
We dug into some specific, very strange claims regarding a program called Project SOAR.
She presented evidence suggesting that in the 1980s, the CIA/government used public school "Gifted and Talented" programs as a dragnet to identify children with remote viewing or precognitive abilities.
The specific markers she identified were:
Being pulled out of class for "special testing" that wasn't academic.
"Hearing tests" that involved listening to tones or numbers that didn't feel like standard medical screenings.
Redacted school records (she found her own records were blacked out).
High intuition or "knowing" things before they happened as a child.
She believes this was the government’s attempt to identify "human performance" outliers early on, potentially feeding into programs like Stargate later.
I’m curious if anyone here fits this profile? Did you have "gifted" testing in the 80s that felt off, or have you ever tried to access your old school records only to find gaps?
The full interview goes deep into the neuroscience of why they might have been looking for these specific traits, but I'm really interested to hear if this rings a bell for anyone else here.
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CIA psychic experiments, remote viewing programs, and Project SOAR are investigated in this episode of The Good Trouble Show. Cognitive neuroscientist Dr. Julia Mossbridge joins Matt Ford to expose whether 1980s “gifted” programs were actually covers for a government ESP research program targeting children.
We dig into redacted school records, GATE program anomalies, and the CIA’s history of using “hearing tests” and pills to identify kids for psychic experiments. We connect this directly to today’s UAP / UFO disclosure news, the intelligence community, and the science of precognition.
If you were in a gifted and talented program in the 80s, this interview about government psychic programs and Project SOAR might explain memories you didn’t know you had.
Is that why all the gifted kids I went to school with all fucked up now?
> “Hearing tests” that involved listening to tones or numbers that didn’t feel like standard medical screenings.
This is literally EXACTLY how normal hearing tests are done. And many states are required by law to do hearing tests – usually around 2/3 grade.
> Redacted school records (she found her own records were blacked out).
Her elementary school from the *80s* where everything was still paper still had her student records on file (beyond the basic things like transcript, graduation date, etc)? Man, the storage area there must be huge.
Was in GATE in the 90s and do remember taking weird hearing tests but cannot recall any specifics whatsoever. I remember once a week or so going with around 6-8 kids and we would do random puzzles, shown pictures of stuff and other things. Have a hard time recalling any specifics, was 30+ years back.
I was in this program. We did the hearing test and the card test (you say what symbol is on the card the researcher is holding up but you can’t see it.) Sometimes they would get excited by my results but I could never get enough of the symbols to make them happy for long. They were always pretty young women who were nice to me. I got pulled out of class once a week or so, none of us knew each other, which i thought was odd. The school wasn’t small but it didn’t seem logical to me that only five of us qualified in the whole school, and none of us were in the same grade/class. It wasn’t a social thing for us at all, I don’t remember ever talking to the other kids.
i was a gifted kid too. maybe i slipped through their dragnet 🙁
I went to school in South Africa in the 80’s and they were doing this stuff there too.
I’d get pulled out of class with one other kid usually.
We’d do weird things like as you say listen to weird tones or numbers repeating randomly, I recall letters too, but it was years ago now.
I recall dark sunglasses/visor things they’d put on my head and there were flashing red and blue lights behind the lenses. They’d flash randomly and there would be tones that would play.
Sometimes we’d play card games afterwards – I can’t really remember much about the cards, but some had animals on them from memory.
I’d also get taken to a hospital every few months where they’d get me to do crafts and similar stuff in a room with others kids from different schools – we’d play card games, do crafts and they’d watch us. Then we’d speak to some people alone, like an interview – can’t recall the questions at all though.
I remember once I had to make up a story or something and they were very interested in why I’d chosen certain characters, or colours for things in my story.
I asked my parents about this a few years ago and they were like, we don’t really remember this stuff but you did go to a Gifted and Talented thing that a teacher recommended – they were skeptical about the glasses/tones etc… but they weren’t there for that stuff.
I posted this 12h ago. I’m not a bot I just don’t wanna type it again.
“I was in it. I had an inordinate number of “hearing tests” from kindergarten through sixth grade, which was strange because I never had hearing issues or ear infections or anything. You’d drink this pepto bismol stuff and get this giant headphone set. Sometimes they’d show you large playing cards with strange symbols or make you sit with your nose a few inches away from a computer screen and show you different symbols.
We had a “gifted program” where we all met and sat in bean bag chairs in this very sterile classroom. I remember it weird that there were unused erasers on an unused chalkboard. The room lacked any of the 2+2=4 type signs. By high school, all the kids ended up being regular ass kids or “losers”. I remember it being weird that we were all so gifted or whatever but were just normal kids. One or two disappeared to “private schools”. I think they were testing us for signs of telekinesis or other psychic abilities like seeing into the future or advanced foresight.”
I still have these time skip kinda things. I told my friend about it (he has some autism too) and he says people like us are just naturally inclined to recognize patterns and make predictions better because we analyze 1000s of scenarios of mundane things all the time. While I believe him to be correct, I don’t believe it’s the whole answer.
There’s just too many times in my life where I think to myself, “oh this extremely rare and specific event is going to happen” and then it does. Like a blue Kia running a light and hitting a lifted pickup but I haven’t seen a blue kia or lifted pickup while driving. Or one of the 1000s of items in my ebay store that haven’t sold in years suddenly sells. Sometimes it’s strings of them. Other times it’s pointless shit like “that guy is gonna drop a pack of cigarettes” and we reaches into his pocket to grab smokes and it falls to the floor, but there was no way for me to know he had cigarettes in his pocket.
Who do these people think they’re going to fool? They kept it all secret because they knew what they were doing was wrong.
It seems like Dr. Mossbridge is trying to thread a needle here, but I’d guess the most likely outcome is the delegitimization of entire fields of research, and possibly entire markets. All this smoke suggests that these people have been doing unregulated research on *children*, including non-verbal children with disabilities, possibly involving the administration of drugs/substances and/or intentional traumatization. That is fucking insane. That any scientist would try to justify such behavior is outlandish, one would have to basically be living on another planet to think the public will find any of this acceptable.
A downside of brown-nosing is that it reinforces acting in obedience to authority rather than in service to principle. A person can get lost chasing validation.
This has been coming up alot. Ive seen mention of GATE & TAG programs, people all over the country remember being taken out of class for these “tests”. Also drinking some ‘pink liquid’
I actually might have been tested. I recall strange flat eared headphones, and brown tape recorders. Tones and them dimming the lights while testing me. It’s really hazy though could’ve just been normal testing for hearing.
I was in GATE and I recall nothing of the sort.
I was in this program, they taught you how to program computers and control robotic arms with code, didn’t experience any psychic stuff.
Thats weird , I had a feint memory of this and remember how pointless it was. It was just high pitched or low pitched noises right ? Maybe it was a hearing test… idk my childhood has blanks in it
I remember a vision test but we had to guess the next in the series. It was just a green or red dot. There’d be 3-5 of them and they’d show you all but the last and ask you to guess the color.
UK here so I doubt it counts but yes I was pulled out for extensive hearing tests for several years when there was nothing up with my hearing, turns out I just didn’t look like I was hearing or gave the correct responses in class. When about 11 or 12 I had a different kind of test that involved all sorts of questions that went on for a week or 2 for a teacher and friend of the family that was going for some further teachers exam (this was ’83 or ’84), all-sorts of odd questions, one i remember is what other uses can you find for a pair of scissors. The teacher told my mum that they failed as the examiners didn’t believe the answers came from an 11/12 year old and thought the teacher made it up for some reason. Only relevant as I heard someone on a podcast talk about a similar question of ‘uses for’. I don’t think the same program was in op over here and i believe it to be a coincidence as the teacher was a friend of the family.
I was in “Enrichment” — what our school district called Gifted. I pretty much just remember hanging out with the Librarian and having free rein of the library. I actually wish I could remember strange tests, but I’m struggling to bring any to mind.
I loved hanging out in that library . . .
I was in the gifted program from 5th to 8th grade in the late 80’s, I remember the weird hearing tests.
They did this for all the kids at my elementary in the late 90s early 2000s. Nothing about gifted children
What the hell is this fake ass interview show? Seems sketch
This is so interesting to me. I was in a variety of “gifted” programs as a child: In first grade, I was the only child in my class who was allowed to leave class just to hang out in the library because my reading skills were more advanced and they didn’t know what to do with me. I just read chapter books all day. That seems normal. I have positive memories of that.
The next gifted program I was in, was in Alabama of all places after we moved there for my father’s job — the school clocked me and another little girl who was gifted and we were often pulled into the hallway to take advanced spelling and math tests. What I remember most, though, was spending time in a loft area above the science lab room. It was dark, and had a communal table, and I remember sitting there with older kids. I don’t remember there being any structure to this, just worksheets and discussion. So, so dark up there. There was another room I remember, that was very isolated and cold, where I was sat at a computer with huge headphones. All I remember of that was a strange video about checking for scorpions in your shoes before putting them on (lots of weird bugs in Alabama, I guess that makes sense?). But I was alone and I have no idea why I was in there.
Interestingly, by the age of 12, I was no longer in gifted programs and I started experiencing extremely vivid night terrors where I thought I was seeing people and orbs in my room. These are usually termed hypnogogic or hypnopompic “hallucinations”. I’m on a sleep medication for these nightmares which eradicates them but if I miss that medication, the dreams come back full-force and I can’t get any sleep. Not sure if that would be related. Always interesting to think about.
I always had my own agenda and never took any of the TAG stuff seriously, I’d answer with whatever and leave as quickly as possible. They never had any interest in me.
I remember thinking why the hell does every school kid have their spine analyzed?
Like look- I’m in gym class playing dodgeball for the umteenth time this year… my spine is fine.
Why are you touching it and analyzing it?
To see if I have an extra vertebrae or something? Because my doctor sees me yearly – who the hell are you?!
RH negative people are known to have psi qualities and extra vertebrae.
I bet that was a part of the broader GATE program.